LifePo4 batteries.
Not that long ago if your motorcycle needed a new battery you simply had to decide between various types of lead acid batteries. They all use the same chemistry and only differed in terms of how that chemistry is packaged and the quality of build.
Not that long ago if your motorcycle needed a new battery you simply had to decide between various types of lead acid batteries. They all use the same chemistry and only differed in terms of how that chemistry is packaged and the quality of build.
Wet fill lead acids batteries are always the lowest cost, and to be honest in a kick start bike with no high current loads they last OK. They often die simply due to lack of maintenance as the acid level slowly drops over time and needs topping up with distilled water.
Absorbent
Glass Matt or AGM offer more convenience and are often sold as zero
maintenance. They are filled with a pre-measured amount of battery
acid either by the shop or the owner just before fitting, the top is
then sealed and that’s that, no further maintenance can be done.
The chemistry is just the same as wet fill, but the acid is held in a
fibre glass matt and this matt can be very thin so AGM batteries can
be built with the plates closer together and in some cases with more
plates per cell, this in turn allows them to supply higher current
which is useful for electric start bike.
Top
end specialist sealed batteries, these were always factory filled and
supplied pretty much ready to fit. They are variations on the AGM
battery, but built to a very high quality, some even have spiral
plates to increase the surface area. These are always the most
expensive lead acid type, but often offer much higher maximum current
known as Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) which can be very useful for higher
compression electric start bikes or those used in the winter.
But
now there is a range of lithium batteries designed to directly
replace the lead acid battery in your motorcycle.
It’s
important to understand the terminology as “Lithium Technology”
seems to cover a range of different types of battery. All are often
referred to as Li-ion or Lithium Ion.
Lithium-Cobalt
Oxide or
LiCoO2
are
the smallish batteries used in mobile phones, they charge slowly,
they hold a decent amount of energy for their size and they can be
discharged slowly. No use at all for a motorcycle. If LiCoO2
batteries are charged or discharged quickly they can go into thermal
runaway and catch fire. There have been famous cases of reputable
mobile phone makers demanding too much from these batteries, which
lead to some much publicise fires.
Lithium
Iron Phosphate or LiFePo4 is the only chemistry currently available
(2020) to be trusted in a motorcycle. They store much less energy
size for size than either LiCoO2
or lead acid. This sounds like bad news, but it can deliver all of
that energy very quickly so it is perfect for electric start bikes.
There is no real need to store a lot of energy, as soon as the bike
starts the alternator will supply all the energy required. To start
a bike the single most important thing is cold cranking amps (CCA).
LiFePo4
safety and maintenance
is only a concern if it is not understood. Just like a lead acid
battery the LiFePo4 battery is made up of several cells inside a
convenient box with a terminal at each end. It
is vital that these cells are kept roughly in balance so one does not
become deeply discharged while the others are charged. If this
happens the battery life will be shortened and there is a very small
possibility that during charging, the charger (or regulator on the
motorcycle) will not cut out as this one low cell is bringing the
total battery voltage down, if this situation continued eventually a
fire may start due to overheating. So ONLY consider batteries
manufactured with an inbuilt factory fitted Battery Management System
know as BMS (sometimes referred
to as BMC). This is an internal
electrical circuit that
monitors the voltage of each cell with in the battery and balances
the voltage.
LiFePo4
batteries really do not not like being charged above 15 volts, their
life will be dramatically shortened, and given the high cost of
LiFePo4 batteries this issue should not be ignored. Before fitting a
LiFePo4 battery to any bike it is worth taking a voltage reading
across the battery with the engine running at various speeds and with
various electrical loads such as light on or off. If the voltage
regulator on the bike is doing it’s job it will never peak above 15
volts, or if it does it will be for less than one second as it
adjusts to different electrical loads. If using a battery charger it
is much better to use a charger designed specifically for LiFePo4
batteries, these will never go above 15 volts but equally they will
not supply a very low amp trickle maintenance charge which also
shortens the life of LiFePo4 batteries. At a push it is possible to
use a standard charger of the correct size, whilst monitoring the
voltage with a volt meter. Allow the charger to take the battery to
about 14 volts and then turn it off. Earlier I mentioned that LiFePo4
batteries store less energy than AGM batteries, and when it comes to
fast charging this is a huge advantage. To charge a discharged bike
sized LiFePo4 battery may only take an hour compared to 4 or more
hours for a AGM battery.
Lets
start comparing AGM with LiFePo4 to understand the difference. All
these batteries are exactly the same physical dimension and both fit
a Jawa 350 OHC.
Battery type |
Full Charge Voltage
|
Energy stored in AH
|
Cold Cranking
Amps |
Lead Acid wet fill
|
12.7
|
9
|
85
|
Standard mid range AGM |
12.8
|
9
|
120
|
High end AGM |
12.8
|
11
|
140
|
LiFePo4
|
13.6
|
3
|
180
|
The table shows some interesting things when it comes to starting an engine. The more amps that are supplied the more torque the starter motor will produce, but also worth noting is the more volts that are supplied the faster the motor will spin.
The total energy stored does need to be considered. If the bike is fitted with any alarm or tracker device with a high drain you will need a lot of storage however good quality modern alarms should have almost zero drain. Still worth checking if you have an alarm and you are considering a change to a LiFePo4 battery. The alarm manufacturer should be able to tell you the drain on standby, anything below 5 mA should be OK.
TESTING
IN THE REAL WORLD
If you have read any of our other blogs you will know that at F2 Motorcycles Ltd we like to test stuff before deciding if it’s all hype or a useful product.
As the UK Jawa importer we have two nearly identical bikes available to allow comparative testing. Both are Jawa 350 OHC which are 4 stroke singles with Euro 4 fuel injection and electric start. They use a 9 amp battery mounted behind the side panel and like most modern bikes there is no room for a larger battery. Both bikes have covered less than 2000 miles from new, and both are freshly serviced using the same oils. They are both stored next to each other in an unheated area so the temperature should be the same.
If you have read any of our other blogs you will know that at F2 Motorcycles Ltd we like to test stuff before deciding if it’s all hype or a useful product.
As the UK Jawa importer we have two nearly identical bikes available to allow comparative testing. Both are Jawa 350 OHC which are 4 stroke singles with Euro 4 fuel injection and electric start. They use a 9 amp battery mounted behind the side panel and like most modern bikes there is no room for a larger battery. Both bikes have covered less than 2000 miles from new, and both are freshly serviced using the same oils. They are both stored next to each other in an unheated area so the temperature should be the same.
One
bike is fitted
with mid range
new AGM lead
acid
battery the other fitted with new LiFePo4 battery of same dimensions
and sold as direct replacement. After
fitting, both batteries were given similar treatment, used to start
the bike, allowed to charge, allowed to discharge a little by leaving
the lights on, charged, bike started and run for 10 minutes, etc.
This treatment continued for a few days and both batteries were
always treated
in the same way. This was only
done as in the past we have experienced brand new AGM batteries not
performing well until they have been worked a little. The AGM battery
was always charged with a smart charger designed for AGM batteries
and the LiFePo4 used a similar size charger but one designed for
LiFePo4 batteries.
The
batteries were than fully charged using the correct charger and left
plugged in until the charger displayed the full charge light. They
were then unplugged and left for one hour and the full charge voltage
reading taken.
A
thermometer that records maximum and minimum temperatures was used to
give a range of temperatures during the time between each voltage
reading.
The batteries were then monitored over time attached to the bike just as they might be if you left your bike in a cold garage in the winter with no charger.
The batteries were then monitored over time attached to the bike just as they might be if you left your bike in a cold garage in the winter with no charger.
AGM
|
LiFePo4
|
|
Voltage
after full charge 8.2 °C
|
12.85
|
13.53
|
Voltage
after 24 hours at between 5 and 10 °C
|
12.70
|
13.38
|
Voltage
after 3 days at between 5 and 10 °C
|
12.60
|
13.34
|
Voltage
after 7 days at between 5 and 10 °C
|
12.46
|
13.34
|
Voltage
after 14 days at between 3 and 10 °C
|
12.15
|
13.23
|
Voltage
after 20 days at between 2 and 8 °C
|
11.87
|
13.20
|
Voltage
after 26 days at between 2 and 8 °C
|
11.59
|
13.17
|
Voltage
after 30 days at between 3 and 8 °C
|
11.54
|
13.15
|
After
30 days an attempt was made to start both bikes.
The temperature was 3.2 °C
The temperature was 3.2 °C
AGM
results are as you would expect for a battery showing 11.5 volts and
a temperature of about 3 °C.
The engine turned over very slowly once but the engine did not start.
On the second attempt the engine didn’t turn over compression. The
battery was rested for 15 minutes to recover and a third attempt
made, but again although it managed to take the engine over
compression once, it did not start.
LeFePo4
results are much more encouraging. On the first attempt the engine
turned over reasonably quickly but failed to start, Waited 10
seconds, and the second attempt turned the engine over even quicker
but still failed to start. Waited another 10 seconds and the third
attempt spun the engine over very quickly, it started and ran.
Different
techniques for different battery technology. Lead acid batteries tend
to recover a tiny amount if they are allowed to rest for 15 minutes.
LiFePo4 batteries work much better if they are slightly warm and the
act of pressing the starter button warms them so by the third attempt
with just 10 second rests the battery was performing well. There is
advice on line suggesting that on very cold days it is worth turning
the lights on or holding the brake on to light up the brake lights
for a minute before trying to start the bike.
The
first test would seem to show the LiFePo4 as the easy winner, but the
AGM battery performance seemed almost too bad to be believed.
TESTING
IN THE REAL WORLD - TAKE 2
The
first test seemed too bad to be trusted, experiences says AGM
batteries don’t like standing about in the cold, but the results
seem terrible. Test repeated using another new battery,
but a different make from a different supplier at
a higher price.
Again it was fitted and used for a few days to cycle it a little
before the test started. This time the AGM
battery was charged using an intelligent charger with winter mode
which
holds the peak voltage slightly higher during the float stage of
charging. This is cheating slightly as many people will have a smart
charger, but not so many will have one with winter mode. However if
this proves the AGM
battery can be used as a reliable starter in winter, it might be
worth knowing.
There is no winter mode for LiFePo4 so this was charged using the
same charger as the first test.
|
Lead
Acid
|
LiFePo4
|
Voltage
after full charge 9.5
°C
|
13.13
|
13.68
|
Voltage
after 24 hours at between 5 and 10 °C
|
12.98
|
13.38
|
Voltage
after 3 days at between 5 and 10 °C
|
12.91
|
13.34
|
Voltage
after 11 days at between 5 and 12 °C
|
12.82
|
13.28
|
Voltage
after 13 days at between 3 and 12 °C
|
12.80
|
13.22
|
After
just 13 days an attempt was made to start both bikes.
The
temperature was 6 °C
Surprisingly AGM even at 12.80 failed to start, First turn seemed hopeful but engine failed to catch, second press engine noticeably slower to turn, Voltage after 15 minutes to recover was 12.50. Further attempts to start fail to produce a running engine and the starter simply got slower with each press. At this point we were getting suspicious that there might be something wrong with the bike rather than the battery, so a second battery was linked in parallel to the bike and it started immediately proving the only thing stopping this bike from starting is the inability of the battery to supply enough power to the starter motor. BUT this second battery is far too big to fit to the bike permanently as it is from a small car.
LiFePo4
battery turned engine over at reasonable speed but did not start on
first attempt, waited 15
seconds with
the ignition on and brake lever pulled in to activate the brake
light. 2nd
attempt engine turned quickly and started with no problem.
The
problem seems to be modern high compression engines need lots of amps
to spin them over, modern electronics need a voltage close to 12 to
trigger the injectors and
ignition system. Small AGM
batteries
don’t seem to be able to crank the engine fast while supplying good
voltage when they are cold. A much bigger AGM
battery would work, but there is no space on a modern bike. The
LiFePo4 battery does seem to offer something better than the AGM
technology but at a price. There is no getting away from the fact
they are much more expensive and in order to last well would need a
charger designed for them. The
final unknown is battery life. There are reports online of LiFePo4
batteries lasting only a few months, but looking in to these they all
seem to be cheap batteries with no BMS fitting or batteries that have
been left deeply discharged for a while. Generally
a good quality LiFePo4 battery fitted with a well made BMS and kept
charged regularly by either riding the bike every couple of weeks or
by attaching a LiFePo4 specific charger will out last a mid range AGM
but may not last as long as the very best of the best AGM costing as
much or more than a LiFePo4.
Based
on these results we are now offering LiFePo4 batteries and chargers
for the Jawa 350 OHC.
And
finally just a recap on the safety and suitability of Lithium
Batteries. They may all be marketed as Lithium, Li-ion, Lithium-Ion
etc, but the ONLY safe reliable ones are LiFePo4 with high quality
BMS designed specifically for vehicle use. If it’s on a dodgy
online site and looks to cheap to be true it probably is not a
reliable and safe LiFePo4.